Still the treble to go for.
And i see the thugs have let the country down again............what's new.
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A disappointing end to a great run for Rangers in Europe.
Still the treble to go for. And i see the thugs have let the country down again............what's new.
Last Edited By: Citymad 15/05/2008 07:16:02.
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Rangers did very well to reach the final.
I don't think that 30 arrests, (after what the Manchester Police described as minor incidents) is really that bad. It was only because it was usch a high profile event with a lot of media that this is making headlines. I wonder why riot police were used to arrest people for minor offences? There are more than 30 arrests on a saturday night on Union Street. It does go to show that you don't have to spend millions to acheive some success. Maybe Cardiff can go one better on saturday. |
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Rangers were let down by the SFA/SPL
They were at a disadvantage from the start, hell even Everton beat Zennit but the difference being that team was not knackered... you would have thought that every thing would have been done too help the gers and well Scottish football but noooo I hope that the SFA are now sattisfied and them that decided not to give the gers some extra time and extend their season are well happy with themselves this morning |
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Another way to look at it all, nicked from another forum>>>>>>>
From a Celtic forum:- During the last month I've been alarmed, but not surprised, by the myths and lies peddled by Rangers and the Scottish Media. Indeed, not one hack has dared to speculate that the predicament Rangers are in is mostly of their own making, or has offered a non-jingoistic catalyst for a change to the schedule. What I've tried to do here is have a look at the most common soundbytes often dished out as incontrovertible evidence. Lie: Rangers have had no help from the SPL The season has been extended by the best part of a week to accommodate Rangers' fixture congestion. As far as I can work out, this is unprecedented in the modern era... indeed, Celtic played three games in four days at the arse-end of their 1974 one-sub-each-no-such-thing-as-squad-rotation title challenge. But that's not the only help that they have had from the SPL this season : Armed with a piece of paper saying, "Lyon huv hud heir game postponed," Rangers petitioned the SPL, aiming to have their match with the mighty
Gretna put back until a later date. As we know, it succeeded.
3rd Dec: "And, with Gretna giving backing to the request, the decision to postpone was taken by SPL chairman Lex Gold and secretary Iain Blair. The SPL pointed out that the French authorities had allowed Lyon a similar weekend off, cancelling their tie at Caen ."
However, it came to light that Lyon hadn't had their game postponed at all. In fact, they applied for the cancellation AFTER hearing the Huns had bought
themselves a free week.
6th Dec: Lyon have failed to have Saturday's league game against Caen postponed to give them time to prepare for the Champions League clash with Rangers. "We requested the postponement in order to be at the same level as our rivals who succeeded in postponing their Scottish league game against Gretna ," he said.
Myth: It's all someone else's fault
Gretna , and dodgy fixture re-scheduling aside, Rangers have had ample opportunity to fix out their own congestion. The failure of Scotland 's Heroes (© Daily Record) to beat Hibs and lower-league Partick Thistle at the first time of asking have padded out their fixture fulfilment requirements. The match against East Stirling was postponed due to a waterlogged pitch. On the face of it, that seems perfectly reasonable in the Scottish winter. However, when the next unchallenged soundbytes emit from President Murray about lowering the Ibrox pitch again to cram more seats in, shouldn't someone - anyone - point out that they are pissing distance from a major river? Obviously the free weekend after the tragic death of Phil O'Donnell was thrust upon them. But it is worth noting that Dundee United, the team they tried not to play this Saturday, were forced to complete their next fixture at the time, despite watching a friend and opponent die in front of them a few days previous. Placed beside that, Rangers' recent request and subsequent petulant outburst looks embarrassingly trivial. Lie: "This will make the SPL a laughing stock"
Take Middlesborough in 2006, they managed to get to the UEFA Cup final. Here was their fixture list.
March
April
May
Let's have a look at some highlights and see how many of Rangers, "Laughing Stock" boxes it ticks...
Middle of April, four games in eight days.
Secondly, and non-Middlesbrough related this year, the FA Cup is scheduled four days before the Champions League final. Is Darth Murray seriously trying to tell us that this would have been moved should Chelsea or Man United have been gracing the Wembley Turf? Myth: The SPL should follow the Russian FA's lead
St. Petersburg , literally Baltic, play in a summer league, meaning that they are only a few games into their season... they have the luxury of playing with a whole year's fixture list. If only Walter could turn back time and ask for some games to be frivolously postponed to help Rangers. Ironically, the two postponements this year, "for the greater good," were Rangers at home to Lyon, and Scotland at home to Italy . Both were humped. Secondly, and covered above, have Zenit actually had their fixtures moved, or are Rangers trying to pull the same Lyon trick again? Lie: "We're doing it for Scotland "
And where were the media when Kenny McDowell admitted that Smith had offered him a job at Ibrox BEFORE Beloved Walter had even handed in his notice at the SFA? Were Rangers, "doing it for Scotland ," when they withdrew five players from the squad to face Croatia . Weir managed to evade even being called up, but four were out injured, including Christian Dailly with a BROKEN FOOT; luckily, a trip to Lourdes healed everyone enough to play in the league match the following weekend. Lie: "It's to help win the UEFA Cup"
Remember, Bolton deliberately got themselves knocked out of Europe to concentrate on league matters. Rangers made sure that they deflected extension talk as
long as possible until there was no other alternative but to extend the league. I speculate that their current tantrum is a much to do with them shampooting it
over the league slipping away a it is to do with the party line. And where are the journos putting these questions to Rangers?
"We never have, and we never will ask for an extension," Walter Smith
Lie: "Celtic got help in the Seville Season"
In 2003, the season was NOT extended. In fact, Celtic were forced to play all pre-split games before the split, a decision that made Ian MacLeod consider taking the league to the Court of Session. Compare and contrast with Rangers, who get to play St Mirren (one of their pre-split games) after the split. In that season, only one game was brought forward, Celtic v Dundee - and that was thanks to Jim Duffy at Dundee , not SPL politics and shenanigans. Only one team was inconvenienced by that shift, not eleven. And while we're on postponements, this is how other teams get on at the SPL. Aberdeen were not allowed to move their pre-Copenhagen match in 2007. This was despite Rangers having done so a few weeks earlier. In October last year, Kilmarnock had to play a match in October with only 5 subs (3 of whom were too injured to play). Mentioned earlier, Dundee United were told to get on with it a few days after Phil O'Donnell died yards away from some of their players. And, my favourite, from September 2000:
Rangers have denied the club have been deliberately obstructive by refusing to postpone their Premier League match against Hearts on Sunday. The Tynecastle club return back to Scotland late on Friday afternoon after their Uefa Cup first round game against Stuttgart . Hearts had asked the Ibrox club to put back the game, but Rangers turned down their request after consultation with manager Dick Advocaat. But in a similar situation last October the Edinburgh outfit agreed to switch a fixture between the two clubs to help Rangers' Champions League campaign.
Anyway, I'm a Celtic fan, so this is obviously biased and one-sided. I'll leave this poorly-penned nonsense with a few words from someone more qualified than I: "I don't know what they're (Celtic) complaining about, they should just get on with it, I wish we were in their position," Alex McLeish, 2003.
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Kind of post you really would expect to see a celtic forum....
would like to see if more from an unbiast point of view |
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I wish he had left it where he found it cause it bored the pants off me!
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Rangers were tired, it showed with the poor first touch and some very slack passing. And being honest Rangers don't have any players of real quality and Zenit were full of top players destined for the Premiership next season. |
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Citymad wrote: Just been reading this now and looking over the footage.
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Manchester reaped what it sowed. You're right GL, they should have put the fans site away from the city centre, but then local commerce wouldn't have
made as much money. Tesco are being slammed for stocking up with booze and then selling it at a discounted price, supermarket booze is already cheap, so why
sell it even cheaper?
I'm not blaming the Police, but why was a football match policed by riot police? If you're faced with aggression, you will react aggressively. |
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I don't go often to celtic boards but they do seem to have a lot of guys with nothing to do but research and write about Rangers. Very peculiar obsession.
As for Rangers, ask for an extension, if you don't get it, play the games and just get on with it. You could argue that you are better to keep ticking over rather than stopping and starting. If Rangers do win the league I bet the celtic guy will have another ten pager after he comes off suicide watch about how unfair it was for the hoops to be idle for ten days without a game to keep them match sharp. At the end of Season 1959/60 City played Saturday, Monday, Wednesday, Saturday, Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday. Six of these games were away from home, one of them at Peterhead and two in Inverness tha last being at caley 4 - 4 to secure the Championship. Rangers would never have coped with that. |
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